Discussion:
abaqus trouble
Elisa Degiovanni
2004-07-02 14:13:04 UTC
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Hi to all!

I'm trying to model a reinforced flexible pavement with ABAQUS. I use bricks
C3D8 to simulate the asphalt & beam B31 (or B33) to simulate the
reinforcement. The interaction between the surfaces is simulated with
*CONTACT PAIR option.
During the analysis I get some problems like this:

***WARNING: SOLVER PROBLEM. NUMERICAL SINGULARITY WHEN PROCESSING NODE
702526
D.O.F. 1 RATIO = 6.47000E+14

the nodes with this problems are often (but not always) under the loading
area.
Can anybody help me?
Does anyone has suggestion on how to model the interaction between asphalt &
reinforcement?
Is that right to create a surface of beam to link them to the asphalt?

thanks a lot

Elisa Degiovanni



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benjamin_hagege
2004-07-03 10:00:58 UTC
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Ah ! And you cannot use a contact pair with beams, except if the
beams are the slave surface, i.e. a net of nodes. In this case, it
would be better to use NODESET= to define the slave surface because
you'll get the contact forces and not the contact pressures that are
meaningless here.
Another way is to use Abaqus/Explicit with the new general contact
algorithm, but the analysis is very long to complete in general.

BenZ.
Post by Elisa Degiovanni
Hi to all!
I'm trying to model a reinforced flexible pavement with ABAQUS. I use bricks
C3D8 to simulate the asphalt & beam B31 (or B33) to simulate the
reinforcement. The interaction between the surfaces is simulated with
*CONTACT PAIR option.
***WARNING: SOLVER PROBLEM. NUMERICAL SINGULARITY WHEN PROCESSING NODE
702526
D.O.F. 1 RATIO = 6.47000E+14
the nodes with this problems are often (but not always) under the loading
area.
Can anybody help me?
Does anyone has suggestion on how to model the interaction between asphalt &
reinforcement?
Is that right to create a surface of beam to link them to the
asphalt?
Post by Elisa Degiovanni
thanks a lot
Elisa Degiovanni
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benjamin_hagege
2004-07-03 09:57:47 UTC
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Dear, this is a rigid body motion... A classic ! I have posted
several times on this topic, please perform a search.

BenZ.
Post by Elisa Degiovanni
Hi to all!
I'm trying to model a reinforced flexible pavement with ABAQUS. I use bricks
C3D8 to simulate the asphalt & beam B31 (or B33) to simulate the
reinforcement. The interaction between the surfaces is simulated with
*CONTACT PAIR option.
***WARNING: SOLVER PROBLEM. NUMERICAL SINGULARITY WHEN PROCESSING NODE
702526
D.O.F. 1 RATIO = 6.47000E+14
the nodes with this problems are often (but not always) under the loading
area.
Can anybody help me?
Does anyone has suggestion on how to model the interaction between asphalt &
reinforcement?
Is that right to create a surface of beam to link them to the
asphalt?
Post by Elisa Degiovanni
thanks a lot
Elisa Degiovanni
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Elisa Degiovanni
2004-07-08 17:58:06 UTC
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Hi BenZ,

thanks for your quick reply.
Anyway I'm not using a rigid body (I checked the characteristics and they
doesn't suite my needs), so how can it be possible to have a rigid body
motion if I don't have a rigid body?

bye, Elisa

PS: sorry if I don't understand, but, as you probably have already
understood, I'm at the beginning of modelling with abaqus!!!!



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Dear, this is a rigid body motion... A classic ! I have posted
several times on this topic, please perform a search.

BenZ.
Post by Elisa Degiovanni
Hi to all!
I'm trying to model a reinforced flexible pavement with ABAQUS. I use bricks
C3D8 to simulate the asphalt & beam B31 (or B33) to simulate the
reinforcement. The interaction between the surfaces is simulated with
*CONTACT PAIR option.
***WARNING: SOLVER PROBLEM. NUMERICAL SINGULARITY WHEN PROCESSING NODE
702526
D.O.F. 1 RATIO = 6.47000E+14
the nodes with this problems are often (but not always) under the loading
area.
Can anybody help me?
Does anyone has suggestion on how to model the interaction between asphalt &
reinforcement?
Is that right to create a surface of beam to link them to the
asphalt?
Post by Elisa Degiovanni
thanks a lot
Elisa Degiovanni
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Dave Lindeman
2004-07-08 20:41:18 UTC
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"Rigid body motion" refers to the motion of an unconstrained body,
regardless of whether the body itself is rigid or flexible. In a static
analysis, if you do not define a sufficient number of constraints, then the
stiffness matrix will be singular, and the degree-of-freedom solution is
indeterminate (think u=F/k when k=0).

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From: "Elisa Degiovanni" <***@aliceposta.it>
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Post by Elisa Degiovanni
Hi BenZ,
thanks for your quick reply.
Anyway I'm not using a rigid body (I checked the characteristics and they
doesn't suite my needs), so how can it be possible to have a rigid body
motion if I don't have a rigid body?
bye, Elisa
PS: sorry if I don't understand, but, as you probably have already
understood, I'm at the beginning of modelling with abaqus!!!!
-----Messaggio originale-----
Inviato: sabato 3 luglio 2004 11.58
Oggetto: [ABAQUS] Re: abaqus trouble
Dear, this is a rigid body motion... A classic ! I have posted
several times on this topic, please perform a search.
BenZ.
Post by Elisa Degiovanni
Hi to all!
I'm trying to model a reinforced flexible pavement with ABAQUS. I
use bricks
Post by Elisa Degiovanni
C3D8 to simulate the asphalt & beam B31 (or B33) to simulate the
reinforcement. The interaction between the surfaces is simulated
with
Post by Elisa Degiovanni
*CONTACT PAIR option.
***WARNING: SOLVER PROBLEM. NUMERICAL SINGULARITY WHEN PROCESSING
NODE
Post by Elisa Degiovanni
702526
D.O.F. 1 RATIO = 6.47000E+14
the nodes with this problems are often (but not always) under the
loading
Post by Elisa Degiovanni
area.
Can anybody help me?
Does anyone has suggestion on how to model the interaction between
asphalt &
Post by Elisa Degiovanni
reinforcement?
Is that right to create a surface of beam to link them to the
asphalt?
Post by Elisa Degiovanni
thanks a lot
Elisa Degiovanni
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Shiladitya Basu
2004-07-08 20:44:56 UTC
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Post by Elisa Degiovanni
Hi BenZ,
thanks for your quick reply.
Anyway I'm not using a rigid body (I checked the characteristics and they
doesn't suite my needs), so how can it be possible to have a rigid body
motion if I don't have a rigid body?
...check your boundary conditions. most probably your model is moving as a
whole.



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